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Tailshaft bushing vibration Does anybody know of a good source? Thanks #829399 - 12/05/05 11:19 AM Re: Tailshaft bushing replacement: PatFromJersey Sir Laugh Alot Poobah Registered: 07/01/01 Posts: 5308 Vibration will surely follow if you do not. they are telling me that there is no bearing in there is he correct . Joined Nov 29, 2005 Messages 3,466 Reaction score 60 I just had a new bushing installed on the tailshaft. It's a 4th gen aluminum shaft. quite a bit a play and clatter at that rear flange car only has 184k I was just trying to stop the leaks (and vibration) long enough to collect all the parts to swap a manual. The Miata 5 speed was also found in trucks, RX-7 and early 626. 100 Tailshaft bushing replacement. anyone changed a tailshaft bushing in a e4od before? noticed a vibration 35-45 mph crawled under the truck and found a The car had crazy vibration, got under it and shook the driveshaft and there was all kinds of slop. Next, we had a local shop check and change the tailshaft bushing and bearingit sounded like marbles rattling around in Cranked the bolt like a pulley puller and out came the old Tailshaft Bushing like a champ. My yoke was fine and eliminated a mild vibration I had above 70 mph. All 6 ujoints are less Has anyone ever heard of using two bushing/bearings, butting them up, in the tailshaft of a TH350? I've got a 9'' tailshaft. Rotate the flange 180 degrees and reconnect the driveshaft to the rear axle universal joint flange . Tailshaft bushing in trans been looked at?? You're not using a needle bearing compatible yoke in a bushing, or vice versa?? VuJa De--The feeling that none of this has ever Just this weekend I finally changed out a worn CV uni joint on the 2 piece tailshaft. I. Thread starter pastortom1; Start date Dec 22, 2008 - pastortom1 Well-Known Member. The next possibility I considered was when I moved the mount pad to the back of the crossmember to accommodate the 2004r's mount, I also raised it some to allow clearance for the 4r's longer pan. Check the motor Below are some photos of a used W58 tailshaft bushing on a driveshaft. 2. If you get yourself an aluminum driveshaft, it'll fix most of the vibe issue, if you also replace the bushing and seal, it'll be better than new. 1st is it sevicable? 2nd do i need any special tools? i have changed them in other cars before wondering if Summit Racing™ Tailshaft Seal and Bushing Kits SUM-705413 SUM-705413. Turns out my driveshaft is bent, and it wore out the transmission tailshaft bushing, which is supposed to keep the tailshaft from moving around. This bushing was removed from a W58 with 259000 miles of use, The bushing can't really do its job with the yoke so far out, so it is wobbling and causing a vibration. [SOLD] Sapphire Blue 1995 GT AODE, 3. The slip yoke is the deciding factor. Apr 26, 2010 196 0 16 kentucky (louisville area) Replace without Housing Removal ; Easy How To Replace Automatic Transmission Extension Housing Tailshaft Bush Bushing & Seal ; DIY Replace Automatic Transmis Dont drive the car too long with a bad vibrating driveshaft shaft because the vibration can eventually over time destroy the pinion bearing ,tailshaft bushing & front yoke,and if bad enough possibly damage the bearings in the tran's too. The last bushing I bought was at Holston auto parts (napa) I have a very strange drivetrain vibration which is essentially narrowed down to either the tailshaft bushing being bad or the pinion angle being off. The first of the week adjustable upper and lower control arms Biggest one is the harmonic vibration that's road speed related, not engine speed. I had found a few things in the front Tailshaft Bushing Replacement. I sent it back to Modern Driveline and they replaced the tailshaft housing, tailshaft bushing and the main shaft. I also suggest that you use something that supports the inside of The vibration starts at around 45mph and gets worst as I gain speed. The bushing also has better oiling groves than the stock part. The other day on the highway it felt like my u-joints were going bad. I'm I thought that I would post up some info I found while trying to get a replacement bushing for my 241c. If it is very slight, you are okay. Can a worn tailshaft bushing cause vibration on decel? TH350 tailshaft bushing and seal. It made a loud screeeeching noise whenever the wheels were moving. Step 3: Remove the Transmission Crossmember. Not sure if they are related, but I suspect so. The tailshaft bushing can be replaced but I went ahead and bought the 1 year warrenty unit and at $775 it wasnt a bad idea. A worn bushing will cause excessive side-to-side movement Hey guys, so, what i assumed was the center bearing issue is actually a dead tailshaft bushing. It was actually not a bad project. Vibration was bad enough that at 75 and up it sounded/felt like something was going to come apart. Replace that and I'll bet that the vibration disappears. The tool standing vertically in the photo drives the new Tailshaft Bushing onto the output shaft with your preferred method of forced cooperation #1096399 - 12/30/06 10:30 PM Tailshaft Bushing, could it cause vibration? Fordiesel69 Over the Hill Registered: 09/16/05 Posts: 4421 Loc: Erie, PA For this forums sake, lets say on a crown vic steel driveshaft setup, could a worn tail shaft bushing cause driveline vibration at all throttle positions above 55MPH? The play is about 0. But stranger things can happen. A loose or worn steering column tailshaft bushing can cause a range of annoying issues, from a persistent vibration in the steering wheel to a disconcerting clunking sound when you turn. The tailshaft bushing is a regular wear item, located inside the transmission tailshaft housing. 0. After fixing both, during a 40 mile ride, the vibration comes back stronger than ever. I highly suggest to anyone that's going to attempt this that you freeze the new bushing. trans falls out of 4th gear while cruising. Advanced Search Cancel Create thread but it could be the extension housing bushing on the tailshaft because I did not replace that when I fixed the transmission. There is a tool made to do the tailshaft bushing. Remove tailshaft housing, remove seal, use a chisel or drift to drive out the old bushing (doesn't seat against anything, so can just drive it in from the back until it pops out through the front), use a block of wood and a hammer to drive in the new one, use a smaller block or whatever you can find to drive it in flush past where the seal Car was driven and vibration was the same or worse we then lifted the rear of the car with a floor jack spun it up at 65 mph the vibration started rear tires were removed this made no difference brake drums were removed and this made no difference. itsfred Discussion starter. After flipping the driveline and taking the car out for a test drive I noticed that the vibration was also happening in lower gears to a less degree. new transmission mount, new tailshaft bushing. I'm not sure what you would be losing sleep over. 92 mustang hatchback It appears that bushing -if there is one-is not available separately for the Miata trans. That, combined with a new and Measurement of the bushing for dimension is not possible (accurately) unless the tail-shaft housing were removed so, and as stated previously by another, removal of the slip Trying to fix a speed based vibration and while Im going through things I had a question about the tailshaft bushing/bearing. It has a pretty bad vibration at speed and I can move the driveshaft around inside the tranny tailhousing. Now it ONLY vibrates under acceleration. Sounds like a tailshaft bushing or u-joint to me This type of vibration is not going to be a tailshaft bushing. At first I thought it was the u joints Vibration Problem Solved! With many thanks to sixteenpushrods, I was able to remove and reinstall a new tailshaft bushing in the T-5, without removing the transmission from the car. 100 I picked up a tailshaft bushing removal tool. There's quite a bit of slop when I push the driveshaft up and down where it enters the transmission extension. Entire axle assembly rebuilt about 2000 miles ago. The rumbling vibration you are feeling is very likely what mike and sparks aid, the brass bushing inside the tailshaft of your C4. ) I have Anyways, at speeds over 70mph and under load, a fairly heavy vibration occurs and just gets worse with more speed. Second you could have a worn bushing in the tailshaft housing. Came out as advertised, new bushing went it using an aluminum tube I had which went over the shaft and had enough of a lip for the bushing. after removal pop out the seal. The oil seal is also shot. Step 1: Raise the Vehicle. Housing is trash, the bushing destroyed and my yolk is kinda chewed up now. Check freedom of joint Still have vibration. I put the rearend of my car up on jackstands, and turned the wheels over by hand. I am going to replace rear tailshaft bushing in trans, check flexplate Initially I wrote the vibration off as a worn tailshaft bushing (it was pretty bad) but replacing the bushing didn't cure it. Vibration was bad enough that at 75 and up it sounded/felt like something was going to come Driveshaft has been checked for straightness and balanced twice. Definitely coming from a drive line related source that goes away if you get off the throttle. This gives it a better purchase on the housing (more surface area), and allows for better support of the driveshaft slip-yoke. I am getting a terrible driveline vibration and yesterday I began the diagnosis, and it was pretty obvious what was up. The reference to the "tail shaft bushing and tailshaft seal" I think is a reference to what Tremec refers to as a single item, the "oil seal. if the bushing in the tailshaft goes bad or the yoke gets worn down too far it will cause a vibration and probably a leak, too. I ordered one from my local NAPA, part 5208 and It was too small. I would think a diameter or 0. It has an aluminum I'm getting ready to replace a badly worn tail shaft bushing in an SBC converted '87 S10 in the hopes that it will cure a nasty harmonic vibration. With all the different T5 variants that have existed, it's possible there are other versions. Location Virginia Beach, VA. Mine took the 5105-L tailshaft bushing from Fatsco. In trying to fix the vibration, I replaced the tailshaft bushing and had the shaft rebalanced, which it was in need of (not very many miles on it since first balance) and the vibration all but went away. 75 out of 5 stars. 27, ASP Crank Pulley, "tmoss" ported lower intake, Magnaflow catted H-pipe, FRPP cat It fit even looser than the worn original bush I was trying to replace! The minor vibration I was experiencing was as bad or worse with the new Amazon bush -- total waste of time I'm more inclined to suspect the tailshaft bushing and possibly the front u-joint. Swap tires with your other Charger. installed it, but the vibration persisted. Aug 12, 2005 #1 For some time I have noticed a high speed vibration in the front end, thought the tires needed to be balanced. The pinion angle was way off and there was some play in the tailshaft bushing. I would say the tailshaft bushing needs replacement if you have over 1/8 inch of movement. Sounds like maybe pump rub in the transfer case has let all the oil out, or maybe a bad u-joint. Eventually I am going with the tremec TKO but for now need to fix a small leak and still have a drive line vibration sometimes. If you’re experiencing these symptoms, it’s time to learn how to replace tailshaft bushing. The old tailshaft bushing shows minimal wear and slip yoke also shows minimal wear. Replaced tailshaft bushing. Checked 'em new tailshaft bushing 2 new aluminum 3. I originally thought it was a The guy said I didn't have to bring the tailshaft housing to him and that he could go to my house and press the bushing into the housing while it's in the car for $65. worn tailshaft bushings can cause a vibration as mcnoople states, but also a leaky seal. When I drove it, I noticed that starting at about 45 mph, there is this weird harmonic vibration that starts off slow and progressively gets worse as speed increases. " As a review of the Tremec drawings (including Figure 6-19) will indicate, there is no separate oil retention bushing on output shaft. I thought the noise was in the rear end I need a tailshaft bushing form my toploader trans. it's not the bushing that will ever cause the vibration. The problem I've been chasing a high speed vibration--it starts about 60 mph and stays there up to 80 mph. If you throw it in neutral at that speed, the vibration stays. 07dirty 2. Next, we had a local shop check and change the tailshaft bushing and bearingit sounded like marbles rattling around in The tailshaft bushing might be worn out. How do you press out The problem im having is when I am on the freeway between 55+ all the way to 80-90mph there is a VERY harsh vibration that shakes the whole truck and makes it hard to even hold onto the steering wheel. took belts off, factory balancer, swapped motor mounts. this is a 1991 245, auto. New trans mount. Jump to Latest 2. If the noise is a "clunk" there are many causes. I did some research and saw this to be common with the type of vibe i have. The tailshaft itself rotates in a bushing mounted in a round shape housing ("extension housing") bolted to the rear of the transmission. New tires, all balanced, rebuilt front end and aligned. You can see that it is a very loose fit. The old RX-2 trans, later evolved into the RX-7 turbo trans, did have a replaceable tailshaft bushing. Lift the vehicle using a jack and secure it with jack stands for stability. Before I tear into it, is there a bushing in there Driving the old tailshaft bushing out from the seal end is easier it can go either direction. Measure the diameter of an unused portion of the slip yoke and measure the used portion, as seen by the scoring. 5" driveshafts tried many different pinion angles 2 different sets of wheels Pulled center section and reset the gears (pinion depth was a little off) The vibration occurs at cruising above 55-60ish and gets worse the faster I go and gets a little worse undeclaration. Had a vibration with my T5 that is behind a 283 in my 34 but the vibration was only during acceleration and got worse the higher the gear. Our '66 Newport always seemed to have a light vibration at 70mph. If it still does it after the new bushing i'm leaving truck in your driveway!! Lol #1096399 - 12/30/06 10:30 PM Tailshaft Bushing, could it cause vibration? Fordiesel69 Over the Hill Registered: 09/16/05 Posts: 4425 Loc: Erie, PA For this forums sake, lets say on a crown vic steel driveshaft setup, could a worn tail shaft bushing cause driveline vibration at all throttle positions above 55MPH? The play is about 0. With my right arm on the front seat top, while driving, my arm would shake a bit. Encountered a small problem. I figured it was a tire issue. This essential component plays a crucial role in ensuring smooth and precise The 1983 TFSM in the Troubleshooting section for the MT says something like "Worn bushing - vibration", but the 1985 TFSM makes no mention of it. I just put the tranny in last night. Take a hack saw blade w/ fine teeth and carefully saw the bushing (legnth wise) but do not cut all the way through, then w/ a flat blade screw driver,wack it sideways and it will split and come right out. The vibration is not as violent but it is still there. The bushing had enough play in it to cause the vibration and to ruin the driveshaft. Slight vibration at highway speeds was gone entirely, and some difference in vibration at idle (although I am due for new wires, so I Over the past week or so I have noticed a pretty nasty vibration at speed in the stang. The moment I take my foot off the gas there is no vibration. My new rear seal is leaking now. I get I replaced the driveshaft with a FMS and I also replaced the trans with a rebuilt unit. I have been chasing a vibration starting at about 68-70 mph. Did one on a friends car last summer and it It's a swapped out 360/727 combo which was shaking the car apart, and destroying tailshaft bushings. It might be the same size as found in other trans. I searched the net and keep finding complete rebuild kits. Things I’ve noticed. Top #829402 - 12/05/05 01:05 PM Re: Tailshaft bushing 1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks - 3-speed tranny tailshaft bushing - I have a 1960 F-100, all original, in the family since it drove off the lot. Also, while crawling under the car today and looking up C3 Tech/Performance - Tailshaft bushing replacement - I have a highway speed (70+) vibration which I've pretty much narrowed down to a worn tailshaft bushing on my M21 4-speed. the tailshaft bushings were shot in the t-case and the driveshaft was bent . Transmission I've noticed a bad vibration in my car go from bad to worse. Check your drive shaft angles. Vibration happens in every gear and is only really noticeable under acceleration. popped the tail housing off and the bushing had spun out of the housing and the yolk was riding on the bare housing. maybe 20 track I changed the tail shaft bushing in the T-56 in my 68 today. I was hoping someone could confirm this. The vibration is that way for a few seconds, maybe 5 secondsthen stops for 5 or 10 seconds, then comes back, its almost like theres a timer Got a BAD vibration between 65-75mph, especially bad when accelerating. The job It wasn't caster, camber, toe, king pins or bushings, pinion angle, drive shaft, u-joints, tailshaft bushing, yoke, tie rod ends, steering box, tire balance, air pressure, shocks, shackles, wheel bearings, motor mounts, trans mounts, steering damper, etc. But I was wondering how hard is it to replace the tailshaft bushing in an AOD? What are the basic steps? And how much play is Thanks for posting your ideas and following your suggestions I tell you that reving the engine it runs really smooth new motor mounts and poly transmission mount and cross member bushings, and I already turned all four rotors. I took mine to a dealership about six months ago and they wanted to replace the entire housing and slip yoke for like $600. I had drivshaft rebalanced with new joints. 2K views 1 reply 2 participants last post by cdnsarguy Apr 6, 2006. Because I don't get this vibration while in 1st or 2nd gear around the same rpms, just in third and it feels very much speed related not so much changing with the RPM of the stall. Both of which a load situation might make an existing vibration worse, to me. Since the bushing is thin and there is access to the side of the bushing I'm going Where to get super T10 tailshaft bushing and seal? Does anyone know where I can get a tail shaft bushing and seal for a Borg Warner super T10. I am also guessing the drive shaft may have been reinstalled differently than how Well it looks like I was mistaken as to where the vibration is coming from. The vibration I had wasn't from the driveshaft. 050" ~ 0. old one was beat to death and rattling like marblesthey said the bearing was like new, and the shaft was fine Tailshaft Bushing Puller. I had some vibration before so I figured a new tailshaft bushing would be needed. Locate the transmission Biggest one is the harmonic vibration that's road speed related, not engine speed. Put it in a baggie and stick it in the freezer the night before. They might be the same size. It should be replaced when replacing the tailshaft seal or when a driveshaft failure has occurred. The drive shaft has been rebuilt twice, u joints twice and tailshaft bushing. Thanks Trysix. Had to replace the pilot bushing from a brass to a roller bearing and the vibration is (the dark area on the yoke looks like lack of lube to the bushing) It is true that the more yoke shaft there is outside the tailshaft the more likely you could have a vibration from it (especially with a worn yoke or bushing. This was just You may have bent the driveshaft or the tailshaft bushing (where the slip yoke goes into the trans) might be bad. Recently I changed my driveshaft slip yoke because I felt the play in that area was excessive. vazbmw HalfDork This can be done at home without any special tools: Remove the housing as the other poster said. No thanks! I just bought a new bushing and spent a good afternoon under the car for under $10. Went to CT Driveshaft and got a new yoke, and balanced the shaft, and my ujoints are perfect. I also checked the play between the slip I couldn't fix my leaking tailshaft without a bushing. The vibration started Driving revealed a vibration so original pitted drive shaft was installed and the vibration seemed to go away. Swapped gear, had tires rebalanced & checked & repacked rear axle bearings. Had to do the tailshaft bushing on my aw70l (1989 Volvo 740) and seal due to excessive vibration. 4. Where it would vibrate all the time before (accelerating, in neutral down a hill or just in drive, but without my foot on the gas). If you remove it there is a bushing in there similar to a cam bearing just take your tailhousing to a trans shop and have them replace the bushing. Jump to Latest Anyway, they fixed that problem, so I had them check out this weird vibration I started getting in the driveling a couple weeks ago. Lindsay NAXJA Forum User. I have a source for a new yoke, but I am also going to do the bushing as well. Unfortunate since that's the main reason I pulled the tailshaft housing but that's the way it goes. Step 2: Disconnect the Driveshaft. The original was worn to the point that I could rattle the driveshaft inside of that bushing. It's not just the yoke, it's the bushing in the tailshaft too. The only way i've gotten the vibration to go away is running it with a piece of wood on top of the jack lifting the trans up off the mount. The tailshaft bushing is the same as for regular production T5s. My slip yoke is pretty munged up, and I am getting a lot of driveshaft noise and vibration. Ron Im chasing a cyclic vibration that comes in at around 62 mph and smooths out over 70 mph or so. If you didn’t want to replace the main seal, you wouldn’t have to as long as you were careful. Thing vibrates like crazy. First and easiest you could have the u-joint straps too tight thereby binding the needle bearings in the u-joint. Also check the bolts holding the tailshaft onto the tranny and inspect around the flares of the casting for stress cracks beginnning there. I got rid of most of the vibration by replaceing the transmissin slip yoke but I'm still getting some high speed vibration, especially on deceleration, after winding it out. Bushing Shot. Replaced the tailshaft bushing with a new bushing. None of these things made any appreciable difference so I assumed that the tranny had to be causing the problem. wheels off, drums off, axles out, differenet 3rd members. Just some examples: TREMEC Tail Shaft Bushing - NWC & WC T5, & Early 3550 – Hanlon Motorsports Pioneer Mustang Tailshaft Bushing (79-95) 755176 / FB-12 (lmr. I think it is coming from my drivetrain because the vibration gets more intense if I am accelerating. 5 mafia 1k hp. What is discovered is that at 3100 - 3300 rpm there is a harmonic vibration that rattles the shifter real bad. If I take my tailshaft off and take it to the local tranny shop, is this something they could replace pretty easily. Never did this before - I initially blamed it on a new, stiff hurst shifter boot, but now I’m not so sure. With the tool it's 20 minutes and all was good. very little change. It took a little longer than I thought it would, but the result was worth it. I cross and go to neutral, kill the engine and a nasty little vibration starts. I think I may have vibration or harmonic issue in my driveshaft for my new LS1 E34 Swap. The design of the output shaft and the yoke are so that when power is applied the splines lock up. The vibration definitely varies with speed (not rpm), the real kicker is the fact that the vibration is barely present with the clutch engaged but with the clutch disengaged the vibration is bad. At least Mustang versions. Hello everyone! I'm getting ready to replace a badly worn tail shaft bushing in an SBC converted '87 S10 in the hopes that it will cure a nasty harmonic vibration. improper driveshaft angles can cause the tailshaft bushing to wear quickly as well as Some clearance between the tailshaft bushing and the yoke is normal. Locate the driveshaft and disconnect it from the transmission by removing the bolts or nuts securing it to the tailshaft flange. 11 posts · Joined 2004 Add to quote; Only show this user #1 · Apr 6, 2006. My concern was that the worn bushing allowed things to move enough I've developed a noise recently, and am thinking it might be the tailshaft bushing. Ed, I have the tools to replace the tailshaft bushing. I recently upgraded my rear driveline to the bigger u joints and new slip yoke. There was bushing wear on my slip yoke. If there is play in the front yoke then you will experience vibration. Yesterday I took some measurements with the suspension loaded on all 4 wheels and this is what I got: Did you ever replace the tailshaft bushing? (assuming it wasn't new to begin with) What are all the anyone changed a tailshaft bushing in a e4od before? noticed a vibration 35-45 mph crawled under the truck and found a sloppy tailshaft bushing. Took If the vibration persists, disconnect the driveshaft at the rear axle universal joint flange (4851). Always start with the easy (and free) stuff: 1. 010 inch less than unused vibration from tailshaft bushing. #16 I think I need to replace the bushing in my tranny. If I lift, it goes away. com) I have a significant vibration in the car in this thread in this sub-forum in the entire site. So I went to a transmission parts store and bought 2 bushings I’ve been chasing a vibration in the 65 (AOD/8” rear). aw4 tailshaft, bushing? Thread starter Lindsay; Start date Aug 12, 2005; L. 1. Jump to Latest I had a vibration around 70-80 and replacing the bushing made it smooth as glass. The vibration started immediately after swapping out the TH350 that was in the truck for the 200-4r, so it seems like it has to be Step-by-Step Replacement Guide. i knew it leaked, but yea. And the shaft should not move side to side or up and down very much. I understand that there is a specific press that is used and its better to have a professional do it 2) The bushing is about 3/4" longer than the factory bushing so it makes use of the entire available bore in the extension housing. The first time, was when I got it. How much slop should there be in the tailshaft bushing. Your question on vibration is probably not the shaft bushing. I am trying to track down a vibration, and I think the bushing may be the problem. . My trans guy was susposed to have changed it but it seems to be excessive to me. Part Number: SUM-705413 Estimated Ship Date: Monday 3/24/2025 Rebuilt Muncie with all new bearings and tailshaft bushing Rebuilt rear axle with new Eaton posi, Timken bearings, moser axles Clutch and pressure plate checked for balance (Hays street clutch set and Hays flywheel Besides - vibration is far worse when the clutch is engaged, but only SOMETIMES. If I push in the clutch and/or pull it out of gear at that speed, the vibration goes away. The grooves inside the bushing are for oil control, the driveshaft is centered by the output shaft splines. This didn't seem 727 Vibration is BACK. I feel the vibration coming from behind the tailhousing of the trans. We had a new driveshaft built and balanced first. Other times, I let the clutch out on the same It's a swapped out 360/727 combo which was shaking the car apart, and destroying tailshaft bushings. i took it back in to the tranny shop and they are replacing the bushing in the tailshaft. The bushing is simply a thin soft-metal tube of driveshaft vibration and th400 question. Gonna try the new tailshaft bushing. Don't ask me how I know I changed or checked all that to no avail. Trans had 1,000 miles on it if that. I've been chasing a vibration on decel for over a year and simply can't figure it out. Leaks all the time at the tailshaft seal/bushing. Anyone still around that loans these out? Ill gladly pay shipping and even toss you a couple dollars through paypal. rkyx wqyq qnccdrv brlqmzpeu vwrrf cjvfomx qslgr tcd fkj oawt pjim rkql tbjq rruzu qwc